Monday, April 6, 2009

Real Estate in Los Angeles:
Are You Outta Your Mind?


Husband and I took a walk around our neighborhood Sunday afternoon and inevitably stumbled upon a couple homes for sale and a few more open houses we walked through {just for the hell of it}. While I am aware we live in a prime Valley location, I'm wondering if this location is aware of the recession we are in that the NY Times is dubbing "...the longest yet in America since World War II"?

We both grew up in the Valley {as did both of my parents} and now we reside in a condo in Sherman Oaks {a block west of Studio City actually} and while it happens to be one of the only palm-tree lined neighborhoods in the Valley, it's no Beverly Hills . . . although, I'm not sure the real estate agents and home-owning sellers are aware of that fact.

The first home we grabbed a flier for {actually a main block west of us} looked like an average 50's Valley house that had been upgraded over time. It's a 2,375 sq.ft. 3 bedroom 2.5 bathroom home on 8,049 sq.ft lot, boasting walk-in closets, pool and spa {which takes up almost the entire backyard, mind you}, Corian counters, copper plumbing, hardwood floors, etc. etc. etc. Listing price: $895,000

The second was a tear down and newly constructed 2 story home with 5 bedrooms and 4.5 bathrooms, approximately 3,400 sq.ft with a lot size of only 6,500 sq.ft., tiny backyard, no pool ...but I must admit that other than looking a bit hotel-ly on the inside and tract-homey on the outside, this house was amazing. Listing price: $1,295,000

Um, are you outta your mind Sherman Oaks? Who is/are buying these homes right now? Who?

While many neighborhoods on the edges of Sherman Oaks and even further out have dropped in value, it seems that Sherman Oaks is in total denial of our economic situation. In fact, I'd venture to say that all of Los Angeles is in denial!

What I do know is that the ban on foreclosure sales and evictions from houses owned by mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is over I still wonder what it's going to take for these prices to come back down to normal standards ...and just how long as well?


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So, what was meant to be an invigorating little afternoon walk turned into an eye-opening and rather devastating acceptance of our own reality. But my question still stands: Who is buying these homes right now?

If someone were to pose that question to me I would say nobody ...but the listings are not dropping so somebody must be able to afford these kind of prices and it boggles our minds.

Since paying off the rest of our debt by mid 2007 and saving our money like squirrels hoarding nuts, we have accumulated a nice little "nest egg" but it's nowhere near 20% of $895K! And even if it were, I'm not so sure I'd drop it on a little Valley house that I know sold for almost half of what is on the market today just ten years ago! Even the homes on the edges of this neighborhood are not low enough yet to be what I would consider reasonable for what we'd be getting.

In the midst of all of this it seems that now, people who made the less than optimal choice of buying beyond their means in a severely inflated market with insanely unstable loans are being rewarded by Obama's Stimulus/Foreclosure Bill and getting "bailed out" of a situation that we thought we were being smart enough to avoid.

While I am not in any way saying that I want people to lose their homes to foreclosure, I am wondering what prize we get for being smart and saving our pennies until we had enough to buy?

...in other words where's our stimulus check Obama? Where's our pat on the back for doing the right thing? ...and how about investing in progress, prospect, probability and intelligence instead of greed and failure?

...I'm just sayin'



46 comments:

inkOBSESSIONdesigns said...

Those prices are crazy!

Mrs.GB said...

Agreed!

We moved to a small, small town to be able to buy a home. It's an investment at this point, and will not be our family home. We plan to move back to the bay area eventually. But it was waaayyy to expensive for us.

I worked in a real estate office and was shocked, and couldn't believe anyone would buy such homes! Built in the 50's, tiny homes, extensive termite damage = over $550k. I. Don't. Think. So.

So we moved and bought a new home ('05) for 160k.

The Rest is Still Unwritten said...

I want that million dollar one...

Holly said...

i know, it sucks, the bad guys win. as for LA, be happy you live in such a beautiful sought after place that holds home values! you wouldnt want to buy in a town that prices SINK like a mother either...

rebecca said...

Ouch - when I lived in Northern Cal I remember 2 bed 1 bath went for 900,000 - insane. There is always Missouri lololo

Summer said...

We're actually moving out of our house and into an apartment. (both are rentals) Just so we can save money...although, it's discouraging because everything is ridiculously expensive, even here in San Diego!

Mrs. D said...

Holy cow! I realize that metro areas like LA are higher priced overall, but that is ridiculous! Here in my rural area a house like that would MAYBE be $100,000. Our 1950s 3 bdr ranch style home was $52,000 in 2003. Makes me glad to live in the armpit of America, lol.

A Balancing Act in Heels said...

Holy moly! Those prices are ridiculous, especially during this bad economic state!

I'm glad to be living in the central valley. Houses like those are only $150,000 to $200,00 right now!

Wanderlusting said...

SO glad you posted this. I completely agree. Only now are housing prices up here in Vancouver BC going down (still like the 5th most expensive place to live in North America though) - we'll be lucky to get a nice one bedroom apartment for $250. More like $300K still.

And houses? Forget it!!

I too always wonder, who the hell are these people buying these homes? They aren't bargains (yet) so who is forking over the dough? Seems very unfair to me in this economy.

I really hope you guys find something you love and at a reasonable price because in the end it comes down to principles and it seems you have a lot of good ones :)

*lusty*

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drollgirl said...

here here. those that fucked up get rewarded? not cool. NOT COOL.

Bruce said...

I beleive that the answer is, no one is buying them....except maybe foreign investors.

Around the corner from where we live, there is a cute little bungalow in an historic neighorhood. Built in the 40s. It was purchased by a realtor and renovated in hopes of 'flipping' it. Market crashed and he walked away from it (abondoned it). It sate for almost 2 years before the bank forcloused and has it up for sale now. Original price was $400,000, renovated he expected to get just under $700,000. Sale price today....$275,000. The house is under 1200 sqare feet.

Wait long enough and you can find something cheap in Sherman Oaks as well.

LiLu said...

I know exactly how you feel. We're renting and our landlord sent us an email yesterday asking if we would ever consider buying it at "a good price."

So I asked him what "a good price" was.

And then laughed, and said I suppose we should be looking for somewhere to live when our lease is up in August?

Jeebus.

Stethoscopes and Stilettos said...

Amen, sister.

We are moving to San Francisco in about a year and we are looking at houses in the same price range, ridiculous!

The Alleged Ringleader said...

Seriously!!! It is UNREAL how much homes are being listed for in the valley! I cannot believe $1.2M for Sherman Oaks?!?!?!

Chessa! said...

I hear you sister. $900K barely gets you a 1500 square foot two bedroom in an average bdlg in NYC...no luxury or gym or anything. maybe a doorman. but that's about it. sigh....

Char said...

the housing market is so out of control....it is insane - I totally agree.

I Like Stuff said...

Contrary to what people may think, it's not about Vengeance. That's not why we should "punish" the "bad people" for buying outside of their price ranges. It ain't got shit to do with it. What's really happening is that the economic situation is so incredibly fucked right now, that if they don't bail these people out or SOMETHING we're ALL FUCKED. You don't want that now, do you?

...love Maegan said...

I'm not actually saying we should "punish" them or that they are "bad" people. ...just wondering what's in it for us.

Shawn said...

Wow, I'm so sheltered here in a small town in Kansas. We bought a 5 bedroom, 3 bath home with attached garage, fireplace and 2 living rooms for $72K. Big fenced back yard and we face the city park. Oh..we are also just 1 mile from a lake.

Of course, my town is only 600 people. It's all relative hmm?

~alison said...

I'll tell you what is it in for you....Obama is offering •A $7,500 first-time home buyer's credit. Last year, Congress approved a $7,500 credit for first-time home buyers, but there's a catch: The money has to be repaid in equal installments over 15 years, starting in the second year after the home is purchased.

The stimulus bill eliminates the repayment requirement, but the home would have to be purchased by July 1.

Underfunded Heiress said...

That's crazy! Did you see the post I did about a week ago of the house down my street. Super cute, 1 block from the beach but it's only 1300 square feet. It's going for $1,125 mill. Yikes. And....it's in escrow already. CRAZY. Just like Sherman Oaks is no Bev Hills. Uh...Huntington Beach is no Newport Beach :) But I guess both area's are still desirable. Well, good luck. My bf who is a home loan consultant says prices are still dropping and end of 2009 through 2010 we will see lower prices. Ugh though still expensive!

Girl Japan said...

San Fran is just as worse .. and some of the homes look like stilts on a hill.. no kidding--- This reminds me of Japan too, it took us 8 years to get to a comfortable place here and save the % we needed but STILL rent goes for $3000 (if you want a decent place)-- but our interest was really low 3.8 (but the real estate in Japan is different) so it is really difficult to compare but that sounds and is outrageous.

Imelda Matt - The Despotic Queen of Shoes said...

It's just as bad in Sydney!

Erin said...

Well...holly crap! That’s just ridiculous! When we bought our small townhouse last year I thought we over paid. Geez California!

As for the "smart people" who are waiting it out and saving their pennies...if you bought a house in the later part of 2008 your "stimulus check" comes in the form of a loan that is required to be paid back...in my opinion...thanks for nothing. If you bought a home from Jan 1st of 2009 till) I’m not sure exactly when) then you get an $8,000 tax credit ...nice BUT if you own taxes then (in my opinion) thanks for nothing again (albeit a better scenario than the home owners of 2008). This whole situation has really ruffled my feathers. I have a hard time understanding why people who (AGAIN...MY OPINION) believed that taking an adjustable rate mortgage was a smart thing to do (you had to have know that it was going to adjust up at some point) are getting rewarded for doing a really not smart thing to do and now the people who waited and were sensible are paying for it big time. Now...I’m fired up!

Thats all im sayin!

Shannon said...

Wow. Our rent is $600 a month.

Pretty Little World said...

When we first started looking for a house, it was a complete eye-opener. Now granted, we live in Michigan, pretty much the saddest state in the country, so prices here are a lot lower than they are in CA.
But some people still try to get an arm and a leg for a property.

I was mostly surprised by our lender. We both have good jobs and good credit, but even after all of the problems with foreclosures, we got approved for nearly twice what we could reasonably afford! Now we were smart enough to buy a house for more than we could spend, but I can see how some people got talked into it. (Not that this excuses those who borrowed way more than they knew they could afford!)

Stephanie E said...

Ooooo can you imagine spending that!!??? I would love to!

Carol Ann said...

funny I was thinking the prices were not bad...I agree with Wanderlusting from BC, I am from Calgary AB our 1 bedroom condo (the biggest on the market that day) 609 sq ft was just under 1/4 of a million to purchase last year...the prices you quoted for the size etc would be a steal hear in Calgary...
I agree your President should reward the savers...but he has to save the others before they bring you all down...thats how I see it...

LENORENEVERMORE said...

California here I am...crazzzy! Earthquakes and all!! PS: I've finally added links(FINALLY!!!) & of course I've added yours Megan...shall we trade? ~Love you long-long time!
XO*always~

Newlywed Next Door said...

I hear you on this one. LA is plain crazy! We bought our Long Beach Condo when it was 10% down -- and thank goodness, because trying to get 20% would have been impossible for years. Good luck out there!

Amanda said...

I couldn't agree more! My husband and I are looking to buy in Lincoln (we live in a really small town in Nebraska), and we were just saying the other day how we're glad we're not trying to buy on either of the coasts - the prices in the Midwest are a little more reasonable, I'd say. But then, it's all relative to location...

And you're right - what do those of us who have been responsible with our money get?? I wrote a blog about that just last week...

Love your blog!

Savvy Mode SG said...

recently a friend tried to buy a 1.1 million dollar home in irvine and there were 17 bids....

FJ said...

Tell me about it. Where's my bailout?

Hanako66 said...

I am in a totally different boat...Hub and I bought 3 years ago at the peak of the market. Our loan is now over 200% of our current property value. We are stuck. No one will work with you unless you have late payments (which we don't) and Obama's bill only allows you to refi if you are at a max of 110% loan to value ratio.

Kellie said...

Damn girl! Act fast that first listing you posted has dropped to $775! What a steal!

Really real estate prices are a joke. In Minneapolis they are coming down finally. Let's hope the rest of the country does the same.

Carla said...

HI Maegan, the house things is so confusing. I would love to buy a little house on a Greek Island but Iam imagining the price tags are the same as any fab place around the world. Best of luck with yours. Carla

Mrs. W said...

granted Tulsa, Oklahoma is not the most fabulous and prime real estate location in the US, you can get an absolute MANSION here for $895k. I think its hilarious that houses are so expensive in Cali and you get sooo much less for your money (except for the great location). And on the east coast where I grew up you get even more for your money than you do here in Tulsa. its crazy!

brooke said...

hhmm....i don't like any of this one bit...we are not expecting to have to move for another year or so...but i want to list ours now...one} hoping someone will be eager to get their $8k stimulus and just go for it and two} so i don't have to worry about selling if it sells asap...selling so far for me has become the WORST part of owning homes...but on the other hand there is three} i am afraid we may be in the same boat as hanako66..we may owe more than we can get...total bunk housing market...t o t a l b u n k!

Emily said...

as over priced as those houses are it's okay because (if you don't mind me saying so b/c I don't know your whole life) the first seems to grandma-y and the second seems very large for just you and your husband.

Nicole Marie said...

seriously!! the prices in sf are still absurd! come on give us a break!

ASSHOLE BOYFRIEND said...

The estate next to us (in Toluca Lake) the guy is trying to sell for 8.2M. Good luck with THAT buddy.

...love Maegan said...

AB: We drove through Toluca Lake last weekend and found a 1000 sq.ft. 2 bedroom for over 800K. it blew us away ..although, TL is so pretty :)

Anonymous said...

One of the major requirements for the new Obama plan or the Home Affordability and Stability Program is that the owner had 20% equity in their home before the bubble burst. That means that they needed to have a substantial down payment or they had to pay off enough of their loan to get 20% equity build up. Also, people that used subprime financing, stated income loans, or jumbo loans ($417,000 and over) aren't eligible at all, so it is in fact helping people that did the right thing and are now being negatively affected by an upside down market.

Morgan said...

Hear hear.

Sandra T said...

Hey I think we live in the same neighborhood! I live in Sherman Oaks in the tree lined section area! in an apartment though. But I love walking my little neighborhood and seeing the cute homes....but hate seeing the prices!

Either way, hello tree lined street neightbor!